Episode 31: White Women Don’t Turn Away - 4 Ways to Amplify The Voices and Work of Black Women

Jun 08, 2020

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Sometimes we must to throw the plans we have out the window, step out of our comfort zone, and go against the status quo to acknowledge what needs to be presently addressed. This is one of those times.

As women with thriving careers, you’ve already done the hard work of developing a skill set to be courageous. You have asked yourself tough questions. You have made the hard, but true, decisions to work more in alignment with what you value. You’ve developed a muscle for educating yourself and taking brave action, even if you’re unsure if you’re doing it right.

So let’s put this skill set to good use right now.

"There’s been a surge of racial protests throughout the United States, and frankly, it needs to happen. And right now, it’s time for white women – including myself – to lean in and listen deeply to Black Women and Women of Color who are qualified to be leading us forward", said Karlee.

This episode’s a little different - Karlee creates intentional space to step back, and instead amplify the voices of Black Women educators and leaders.

White women will walk away from this episode with a valuable framework to know your role in the essential conversations and racial justice that needs to happen. And in her in her usual, "make things doable" style, Karlee shares 4 resources for elevating your anti-racist journey including podcasts, books, movies, and ways to take action.

And if you're thinking, "Of course racism is bad, but I listen to Messy And Magnificent to learn about running a business/career that works for me, what does racial justice have to do with my career?"...then this might help:

Karlee explains why she choose to get simultaneous degrees in both Business Mangement and Community Justice - because in a capitalist culture, there is no such thing as “it’s just business”. The way we treat each other through our work is the way we shape our world. When we put space between our values and our work, we fragment our energy and create pain for ourselves and others


Tune in to find out how to start having the important conversations required for all women to rise.

In This Episode You'll Learn:

●  Why NOW is the time to support Black Women Leaders and let them lead the conversations around race, equity, diversity and inclusion. (4:51)

●  Why good business, at its core, is about community justice. (6:52)

●  4 ways to educate yourself and be an active part of the racial justice that must happen for all women to rise. (11:00)

●  Why our discomfort about race (white women) is not relevant, and what to do if someone calls you out for doing/saying something harmful. (14:00)

Resources Mentioned In This Episode:


Shine Brighter Together: What is anti-racism and why you’re not doing it, Part 1

Shine Brighter Together: What is anti-racism and why you’re not doing it, Part 2


Antagonist, Advocates and Allies: The Wake Up Call Guide for White Women Who Want to Become Allies with Black Women by Catrice M. Jackson


National Bailout Fund


13th, directed by Ava DuVernay

For My Fellow White Coaches:

Show Up & Serve: a Workshop for White Coaches with Trudi Lebron

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